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Molly
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: sex & marrige Reply with quote

Forever Dawn would have considered "adult" which doesn't necessarily mean "dirty," just that it wouldn't have been targeted to teens but to adults, like The Host (I haven't got to get it yet so I don't know if it's dirty...Don't spoil me!)

jennyberry wrote:

Just one thing i was wondering if the do make us all happy and have sex before she is a vampire, guys you all forgotten that some times when its your first time you may bled a little so i dont know if you get my thought here but will Edward control him self if blood comes in that ohhh so great moment???????? Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed


Reason #2 on my list of why they shouldn't have sex before she's turned.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That certainly is another point to consider Confused it could be quite deadly if Edward loses control in that respect.

But one of the things I'm worried about is that in Twilight, Edward wouldn't change Bella cos he liked the way she smelt, and the way she blushes and all that. It's one of the reasons he was attracted to her in the first place. He says he doesn't know what he would do if he couldn't see her blush all the time or something like that.

When she turns, that won't happen, and I'm afraid there won't be that connection any more.

Despite what EDward says.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a small excerpt (as in, first paragraph) of forever dawn on the lexicon, if anyone is interested. I can't find it right now, but will update ASAP when I do!
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trying to find it now! thanks!!!
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^ It should be in a thread that is talking about some ladies meeting with Stephenie. She showed them the first page on her laptop, and they took a picture. People were able to make out the text showing 'cause, we are all obsessed. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

could you find the link?? I can't find it Sad
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm extremely late in this -- wow.
Haha, but adding to all of these possible theories. I'm gonna say that they will try, of course, it'll all turn out fine, with maybe a small glitch of some sort. They'll try as her last human experience. Maybe Edward will think that he can't control himself and he will, just like with the first book where he sucked out the venom. Afterward he'll go into how bad of an idea it was. How typical, right? Her vigina will be Fine! Think, Stephenie isn't THAT warped. Haha. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

asphyxiated wrote:
Her vigina will be Fine! Think, Stephenie isn't THAT warped. Haha. Rolling Eyes


Haha, nicely put!! I think it'll be a classic first time experience and I agree - maybe he'll get too into it and just bite her mid-action. Who knows. But I have no doubt that SM will set it up as either the most romantic first time ever...or the worst. (And by that I mean it's going to be humorous like the tent scene in Eclipse) Wink
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For whoever wanted the Forver Dawn tiny little excerpts...after much searching I un-earthed it!

"I wouldn't describe myself as an unnaturally morbid person, or even especially depressed. Still, consistent, overflowing happiness has never been one of my dominant character traits, either. I wasn't quite sure what to do with my blissful self these days..."


Speculate away!!!! Very Happy I think she is turned because she is "blissful".

http://www.twilightlexiconforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=8021&highlight=#8021

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so wait....is it not Breaking Dawn anymore?
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is still called Breaking Dawn - Forever Dawn is the (oolala) version for mature adults like ourselves!
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to SM, there weren't really any "for adult" parts, it just was written for an adult audience. (And if you've read The Host, which is written for adults, you would know that there's not really anything much different than Twilight/NM/Eclipse.)
She also said that the best parts of Forever Dawn made their way into Breaking Dawn.

I feel like we all want SM to essentially write a porno book that has 600 pages of Edward+Bella doing it the whole time lol.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

morgan wrote:

I feel like we all want SM to essentially write a porno book that has 600 pages of Edward+Bella doing it the whole time lol.


*nods* I'm not even gonna lie on that one.. lol
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lambinthemeadow wrote:
morgan wrote:

I feel like we all want SM to essentially write a porno book that has 600 pages of Edward+Bella doing it the whole time lol.


*nods* I'm not even gonna lie on that one.. lol


As if you could lie about it... Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright so I'm kind of late in this thread and don't really feel like reading the entire 6 pages, although I did skim a lot.

Regarding Bella and Edward having sex before or after marriage - I'm sure that Bella will unthinkingly push him to have sex with her while she's human. Personally, I feel as though it would be a really bad move on her part, seeing as there are many complications. I mean, the guys penis is probably like a rock - I don't see how on earth she could ever get pleasure from that! She would just be in serious pain.

Also think about her blood. When having sex (if it could even work properly), her blood will be flowing at a faster rate (think of Edward when she blushed when he tried to kiss her the first time, and multiply it by 100!) I don't believe that he would actually lose control, but it would be in Bella's best interest to have supervisors, which would be rather awkward.

In my opinion, it would be the wisest decision for Bella to wait until after she is turned to have sex with Edward. It would probably much more enjoyable, because I really don't think that a human could enjoy/live through sex with a vampire. But of course, Bella doesn't make rational decisions when it comes to Edward, so she will probably make him de-virginize her before she's turned.
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