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Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 587 Location: Bunbury, Western Australia
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: TWILIGHT: CHAPTER BY CHAPTER DISCUSSION
Okay guys, here it is!
The Twilight Saga Chapter Discussion is here!
Each week we'll post some questions for you to answer based on each chapter of Twilight. Think long and hard, refer to the book, write your answers and then post. Then discuss your answers with the other fabulous TA members.
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PREFACE/CHAPTER ONE
First Sight
1. What was your first impression of the Preface. Who was the 'hunter'?
2. Bella's distaste of Forks is evident from the start of the chapter. What was your first impression on why she decided to move to Forks, even though she detests it?
3. What is your inital opinion of Renee and Charlie, and their relationship? Why do you think Charlie never got over Renee?
4. We see a lot of negativity from Bella, right from the start. Do you think that this will be a weakness for Bella in the chapters to come?
5. Would you have loved Billy's old truck, like Bella, or would you have absolutely hated it upon first seeing it?
6. What do you make of Forks High School? Does it, for the international readers, depict the traditional views of an American High School with its looks and its pupils? (minus the Cullens of course!)
7. What was your first impression of the Cullens? Too cool for Forks or social outcasts?
8. Jessica states that Rosalie and Jasper are 'brother and sister', as are Edward, Alice and Emmett to each other. Do you get the impression, as a reader who does not know who they really are, that they are brothers and sisters? Is there anything in the Cullen's and Hale's body language that would tell a stranger that they are siblings?
9. Do you think that Bella felt any instant attraction to Edward? We've previously discussed the differences between 'love' and 'lust' in a different thread. So do you think that there was initial attraction, or was their relationship spurred on by the Darcy/Lizzie-esque communication and temptation?
10. After being introduced to Bella, what similar characteristics do you share with her? Do you feel she represents the typical average female high schooler or is Bella on a level all her own? Would you have befriended her?
11. What struck you the most from chapter one?
Answer away! You have one week to answer, post and discuss!
1. What was your first impression of the Preface. Who was the 'hunter'?
I wondered what was going on. Why was she going to be killed? I had no clue who the hunter was, but I knew that it wasn't Edward.
2. Bella's distaste of Forks is evident from the start of the chapter. What was your first impression on why she decided to move to Forks, even though she detests it?
I thought that maybe she didn't like Phil.
3. What is your inital opinion of Renee and Charlie, and their relationship? Why do you think Charlie never got over Renee?
I don't like Renee; I couldn't stand to have a mom like that. Charlie's okay, just the typical dad, you know? I think it's good that they don't have a bad relationship, but Charlie really should move on. I have no guess as to why he hasn't gotten over her
4. We see a lot of negativity from Bella, right from the start. Do you think that this will be a weakness for Bella in the chapters to come?
I think that Bella could have been more positive about Forks. You'd think if she willingly moved to another town, she'd try to make the most of it, even if it is cold and rainy all the time.
5. Would you have loved Billy's old truck, like Bella, or would you have absolutely hated it upon first seeing it?
I'm pretty much insane when it comes to vehicles produced before 1970. Even me as a vampire would insist on driving it.
6. What do you make of Forks High School? Does it, for the international readers, depict the traditional views of an American High School with its looks and its pupils? (minus the Cullens of course!)
I might have liked to go to a school like Forks; I'm kind of a small town girl. FHS would have its ups and downs: you will always know someone, yet you couldn't keep a secret even if the only people you told were dead.
7. What was your first impression of the Cullens? Too cool for Forks or social outcasts?
Since the blurb on the back of the book ruined the surprised of "the Cullens are vampires!" I thought they were some attractive vamps. There's a synonym for alienated that applies to the Cullens, but I can't think of it right now....It (obviously) means about the same thing, but it's done willingly by the outcasts, not the people who shun them. Is that understandable? Anyway, that's what the Cullens are.
8. Jessica states that Rosalie and Jasper are 'brother and sister', as are Edward, Alice and Emmett to each other. Do you get the impression, as a reader who does not know who they really are, that they are brothers and sisters? Is there anything in the Cullen's and Hale's body language that would tell a stranger that they are siblings?
Rosalie and Jasper would definitely look like they're brother and sister, and Alice and Emmett, but I'd think Edward would more likely be related to Rose and Jasper. Of course, I'm just going off hair colour, which really means nothing. As for body language, they all acted the same way at the lunch table, so yeah, that showed that they're close.
9. Do you think that Bella felt any instant attraction to Edward? We've previously discussed the differences between 'love' and 'lust' in a different thread. So do you think that there was initial attraction, or was their relationship spurred on by the Darcy/Lizzie-esque communication and temptation?
OF COURSE! He's, like, sexy. Who wouldn't be instantly attracted to him? It was probably more lusty at first, not that she was like "Do me now, you hunk-a-hunk of burnin' love!" But, you know, since she didn't know him, she couldn't really love him, right? And, yeah, their relationship was Darcy/Lizzie-esque.
10. After being introduced to Bella, what similar characteristics do you share with her? Do you feel she represents the typical average female high schooler or is Bella on a level all her own? Would you have befriended her?
Bella seems mostly normal to me. I don't know any teenage girl that cooks every meal, but with a mom like Renee and a single dad like Charlie it's good that she knows how. I'm a little jealous of her for that, actually. I see Bella as sort of an every-girl, so, yeah, we share some characteristics; I'm pale and have dark hair, and I'm sarcastic and quick-witted. I'm a little clumsy, too, but in a different way than Bella; my feet aren't my enemies, but until I was 14/15 I would almost always spill a drink or make a mess of food when I ate. Seriously, I'm surprised I was allowed to eat in public.
I probably would have ended up befriending her, in an Angela sort of way.
11. What struck you the most from chapter one?
Edward, of course! Vampires are always intriguing! Though, I still hate that his mystique was lost because of the blurb on the back of the book, but what can you do. And, however odd this is, the shirt Bella wore when she left Phoenix. Whenever I think of chapter one, it's the first thing that pops into my mind. _________________
1. What was your first impression of the Preface. Who was the 'hunter'?
I actually thought it was Edward. When I first read the preface..I was thinking: Maybe he went out of control.
2. Bella's distaste of Forks is evident from the start of the chapter. What was your first impression on why she decided to move to Forks, even though she detests it?
My first impression was that she felt she needed to go to Forks. I believe I thought it was because she felt it her duty to be live with Charlie now that her mother got remarried. \
3. What is your inital opinion of Renee and Charlie, and their relationship? Why do you think Charlie never got over Renee?
Charlie kind of reminded me of my biological father, but more protective and showing love. Renee...actually also reminds me of my mother, but more childlike and needing her daughter to take care of her. I just remember realizing that.
4. We see a lot of negativity from Bella, right from the start. Do you think that this will be a weakness for Bella in the chapters to come?
No, because if you have negativity in the beginning then you can always go up the ladder to get up to cloud 9. Wheras if you start with positivity, more likely you're going to fall really hard before you even see cloud 9.
5. Would you have loved Billy's old truck, like Bella, or would you have absolutely hated it upon first seeing it?
I probably would have not wanted to drive it. I mean, I would drive it because my father got it for me...but I think I would have been a little bit embarassed about it. Eventually loving it, possibly.
6. What do you make of Forks High School? Does it, for the international readers, depict the traditional views of an American High School with its looks and its pupils? (minus the Cullens of course!)
It reminded me of my middle school/elementary school and a little bit of my high school (but mine was more populated). I believe it did depict an American high school...thank goodness mine didn't have four years of physical ed!
7. What was your first impression of the Cullens? Too cool for Forks or social outcasts?
My reaction was "Why isn't Bella sitting with them?!" I would have definitely wanted to befriend them right off..just because they seemed to be outcasts..and had this weird connection to each other without even looking at one another.
8. Jessica states that Rosalie and Jasper are 'brother and sister', as are Edward, Alice and Emmett to each other. Do you get the impression, as a reader who does not know who they really are, that they are brothers and sisters? Is there anything in the Cullen's and Hale's body language that would tell a stranger that they are siblings?
Jasper and Rosalie, being the blondes...definitely look like they could be fraternal twins. I see a more intimidating body language about them, with Jasper feeling the blood lust and Rosalie expressing that she is the most beautiful woman in the school.
Even though it doesn't seem like it...I think Edward and Emmett would seem like brothers. Maybe it's because of their hair...but it did seem the whole big brother, brother kind of feeling. Alice would be the odd ball, but we always have odd balls in families. Historically it's been the 3rd child, would say why this is..but it works with the Cullens. HAHA And it has to do with blood!
9. Do you think that Bella felt any instant attraction to Edward? We've previously discussed the differences between 'love' and 'lust' in a different thread. So do you think that there was initial attraction, or was their relationship spurred on by the Darcy/Lizzie-esque communication and temptation?
E-Definitely! Initial attraction for Bella. She couldn't keep her eyes off him could she?
10. After being introduced to Bella, what similar characteristics do you share with her? Do you feel she represents the typical average female high schooler or is Bella on a level all her own? Would you have befriended her?
I think Bella represents all average female high schoolers. The ones who always get the guys attention. The ones who have a low self esteem because no one gives them attention. The one who is as clumsy as a fish out of water. The ones who have to take care of her family for reasons. I think every teenage girl can see a little bit of herself in Bella. The characteristics I share with her is the being misunderstood, being horrible at phys. ed (a bit clumsy, yes I am) and reading nonstop. Oh, also the whole ...analyzing situations bit. Never know how to explain it, so I definitely do not have her way with words..but I am sarcastic and have been told that I have wit.
I probably would have befriended her, but maybe through a friend.
11. What struck you the most from chapter one?
Hmm...I think it was her reactions to the cold. I was in AZ at that time, being from a cold state of Maine..and found it weird the difference she felt. Oh and her dislike to Forks.
1. What was your first impression of the Preface. Who was the 'hunter'?
I actually thought it was Edward. When I first read the preface..I was thinking: Maybe he went out of control.
Just curious, who did you think she was dying for?
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8. Jessica states that Rosalie and Jasper are 'brother and sister', as are Edward, Alice and Emmett to each other. Do you get the impression, as a reader who does not know who they really are, that they are brothers and sisters? Is there anything in the Cullen's and Hale's body language that would tell a stranger that they are siblings?
Jasper and Rosalie, being the blondes...definitely look like they could be fraternal twins. I see a more intimidating body language about them, with Jasper feeling the blood lust and Rosalie expressing that she is the most beautiful woman in the school.
Even though it doesn't seem like it...I think Edward and Emmett would seem like brothers. Maybe it's because of their hair...but it did seem the whole big brother, brother kind of feeling. Alice would be the odd ball, but we always have odd balls in families. Historically it's been the 3rd child, would say why this is..but it works with the Cullens. HAHA And it has to do with blood!
Oh, you're right. Rosalie and Jasper are more intimidating than the rest; that does make them seem more like brother and sister.
I thought Emmett had dark hair? Not black, but dark brown? Well, bronze is a sort of brown....I see your point. _________________
Ok..sooo I'm just going to respond without quotations. It's hard to quote, quotes that are quoted...and trying to quote the non-quote...*blinks*
ANYWAY!
I actually thought she was dying for Edward because she loved him and that's the reason he had taken her away. She was kind of....making sure that she was always with him. Not being able to leave his side... It was quite confusing..and I didn't get it when I read the last part....I thought she had fallen in love with him and then followed him..yeah. I know it's weird. It was my first reaction to the preface.
He had like..light brown hair didn't he? Curly brown, which almost like bronze. Alice is the one with black hair. I think he had brown hair..I'd have to re-read it.
Okay, yeah, that is kind of confusing Like she was dying for him so she would never be able to love anyone else?
According to Emmett's character bio on the Lexicon, his hair is "dark," which could very well just mean regular brown as much as it could dark brown. _________________
Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 587 Location: Bunbury, Western Australia
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:58 am Post subject:
1. What was your first impression of the Preface? Who was the 'hunter'?
From having read the back of the book, I knew something was up and that it possibly involved vampires. I knew it wouldn’t be Edward though.
2. Bella's distaste of Forks is evident from the start of the chapter. What was your first impression on why she decided to move to Forks, even though she detests it?
This confused me a lot. She’s in Forks, yet about every second sentence she complains about the town. So why move to a place you don’t like? At first I thought that she’d maybe had a falling out with her mother, and going to live with Charlie was a way of hurting her.
3. What is your initial opinion of Renee and Charlie and their relationship? Why do you think Charlie never got over Renee?
I loved Charlie from the minute we met him. He’s that awkward father figure, who really hasn’t seen his daughter grow up properly, and doesn’t know what to talk about with his seventeen? year old daughter. He reminds me of Dennis Quid for some reason…
I didn’t like Renee at the start. From the impression that Bella moved to make her happy, she didn’t seem like a person I’d like as a mother – if your daughter is leaving just to make you feel happy, what sort of person does that make you? Plus she seem a little too eccentric for my taste.
I think it was the va va voom that Renee possesses that was an attraction to Charlie. Plus people never seem to get over their great loves, do they?
4. We see a lot of negativity from Bella, right from the start. Do you think that this will be a weakness for Bella in the chapters to come?
I definitely think that Bella’s negativity will have an impact on the future chapters. She’s thinking in a very pessimistic way, and I think that this could impact on her thoughts and decisions.
5. Would you have loved Billy's old truck, like Bella, or would you have absolutely hated it upon first seeing it?
I liked it upon first reading the book, but when I saw a picture of what it actually looked like I wasn’t too keen. I’m not keen on old cars. Give me an Aston Martin vanquish any day.
6. What do you make of Forks High School? Does it, for the international readers, depict the traditional views of an American High School with its looks and its pupils? (minus the Cullens of course!)
For me, it was how I viewed an American high school to a certain extent. There was something different in this portrayl – for me an American high school is something similar to Sweet Valley High. However, there are people, like Jess, who are your conventional American school girls, and the always popular kids like Mike.
7. What was your first impression of the Cullens? Too cool for Forks or social outcasts?
I was intrigued by the Cullens at first. It was a question of who they were, why were they so gorgeous? When Jessica mentioned Edward, it sort of fell into place, what with the blurb at the back. You could almost feel this vibe coming off the page – almost a don’t sit with us type of thing. Wouldn’t that be awesome if you just went and sat down next to the Cullens?
8. Jessica states that Rosalie and Jasper are 'brother and sister', as are Edward, Alice and Emmett to each other. Do you get the impression, as a reader who does not know who they really are, that they are brothers and sisters? Is there anything in the Cullen's and Hale's body language that would tell a stranger that they are siblings?
I think the hair colour gives it away, but I actually got the impression that they didn’t seem very brotherly/sisterly. I don’t know how close they were sitting to each other, but my first thought with the no talking and not eating thing was that they were being very distant, and then Alice hopped up and left. I don’t think that there really was any indication that they were related only after Jessica mentioned it.
9. Do you think that Bella felt any instant attraction to Edward? We've previously discussed the differences between 'love' and 'lust' in a different thread. So do you think that there was initial attraction, or was their relationship spurred on by the Darcy/Lizzie-esque communication and temptation?
I think that there was only a ‘wow’ factor about how gorgeous Edward was looking. After all, how can you love someone from just looking at them? I think though, that as they progressed in the ‘getting to know you’ stage, there was an attraction, that pulling power that both of them couldn’t resist.
10. After being introduced to Bella, what similar characteristics do you share with her? Do you feel she represents the typical average female high schooler or is Bella on a level all her own? Would you have befriended her?
Bella’s the fish out of water, the one who would keep to herself. At least she was in Phoenix. I guess I share that same level of worry that Bella has, the insecurity of starting a new day at school, wondering what the hell she did wrong that would make Cullen ‘hate’ her so much.
11. What struck you the most from chapter one?
Bella’s insecurity. She is a really insecure person, and worries way too much. That and the Cullens of course, intrigued me. Why Edward hated her so much. _________________
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It was probably more lusty at first, not that she was like "Do me now, you hunk-a-hunk of burnin' love!" But, you know, since she didn't know him, she couldn't really love him, right? And, yeah, their relationship was Darcy/Lizzie-esque.
