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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:39 am Post subject: Re: A bet
lymikimmie wrote:
My sister and I are having a bet over what is going to happen in Breaking Dawn. We both agreed on that we did not think that Bella was going to change into a vampire. (Guys, I'm really hoping that she does...but I am not really sure!!) So we're taking bets on what Bella's power/powers will be, what the conflict will be in BD and anything else really...
Does anyone have suggestions?
Because I really want the dollar that we are betting for. If the stakes are raised, I will let you know.
well, you know for sure already that she will have incredible immunity to "mind-working" vampires. it really is a power and a good benefit to her, but she just won't be able to "know" or "manipulate" like Edward, Alice and Jasper. but hey, whatever she does, it'll be sweet. plus, her first year, she'll be able to beat Emmett in an arm wrestling match!
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:43 am Post subject: other super power...
okay, throughout the books, she's had this incredible sense of smell, much stronger than a human's. i can't smell blood unless it's up to my nose like i'm taking crack! so i think she'll also be a good "wiffer". imagine her working with her dad, she'd be better than the dogs! hehe...well, this is my jist of her powers.
Bella's gonna be WIELDING A BUNCH OF POWER....all the powers discussed seem so possible! she may have ESP-related powers, along with her private mind, and her crazy, i-can-smell-anything nose, etc. i'm sure the Volturi will feel threatened with her being so incredibly powerful. she's like the underdog: a klutz for now, and powerful Vamp the next. woot woot!
Yes! If Bella is turned, I vote that that the arm wrestling match must be show in the book.
I think that would be AWESOME! I would laugh my butt off! _________________ "In this world love has no color, yet how deeply my body is stained by yours." J. Craqqette
There's no way that Bella won't be turned. Stephenie works with a formula and her main goal isn't to surprise the reader. Everything that happened in Eclipse would be for nothing if Bella doesn't become a vampire. She would have permanently destroyed her relationship with Jacob for no reason, she would have come to terms with getting married for no reason, and she would have gone through all that angst about what she'd be giving up for no reason. There's no way in Hell Bella's staying human. If not for everything I just said then she'll become a vampire simply because Stephenie Meyer is a huge romantic who wants a happy ending. There's a happy ending in every one of the previous books. There's no reason to believe that Breaking Dawn won't follow that pattern.
As for Bella's power, it's going to have something to do with her private mind. I'm sorry but I think these theories about her being immune to the smell of blood are preposterous. Reason being, if Bella as a vampire is immune to blood then she instantly becomes the stereotypical Mary-sue vampire. Her change becomes too easy and Stephenie's not going to do that. Second, in the Q&A on Lexicon Stephenie talks about why Edward, Jane, and Aro's skills don't affect her. She says it's because Bella's mind is extremely private, that 'no one can touch her there'. Aro wouldn't be so interested in how she turns out if he didn't suspect that her mind would become extremely powerful. He didn't even know that she dislikes the smell of blood. If anything she'll be more aware of the smell and more tempted by it when she's a vampire.
So in regards to your bet I'd go with this:
"I bet you that Bella's going to be changed and that her power will have something to do with how private her mind is."
I know... I'm long winded.
I think I second this.
And those little ideas of Bella's possible powers are excellent! The one about her "stretching" her private mind really blew me away, that was just such a smart guess.. _________________
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I think the first and third are the most likely, out of all of the ones there..(I only put the three that I thought would be more true and the ones that I never thought of). The second one..I think that's just intuition...maybe her intuition will be stronger.
I looovee the first one. That one is INSANE.. Ireally wonder how it would work, and really want it to be true. That would be phenominal. And the third...wish I knew more of what it means.
Haha, glad some of you seem to like the first idea, that was one of mine, lol.
The Sensitivity one was someone else's though. I will copy the idea over, it's a bit on the long side, sorry...
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I think she's gonna be "sensitive" to things, that's my theory...well, she already is sensitive but it'll broaden more when she turns into a vamp (if she does). Hence the smell of blood, hence the knowledge of things that haven't occured, which I think that's why she can sort of "control" what she wants inside herself as in her been inmune to other vamps's gifts. Remember that Edward had a theory in New Moon about Demetri that his gift was tracking and he said he might not find her 'cause of that? I think the more he won't if she becomes a vamp, I could say she'll be sort of a psychic? no, wait lemme clear that out...she'll be sort of a clairvoyance...as in if she touches or sees someone, she'll feel the emotion? (sort of like Jasper..well, Jasper controls it) but I think she'll feel the emotions that were left or the ones that'll be in that room...been sensitive means also been shape-able to things. See sensitivity:
"The sensitivity or insensitivity of a human, often considered with regard to a particular kind of 'stimulus', is the 'strength of the feeling' it results in, in comparison with the strength of the stimulus. The concept applies to 'physical' as well as 'emotional feeling' "
"Sensitivity:
*Rapid perception with the 'senses', 'reacting to small changes'.
*Reacting appropriately to the 'emotions or situation of other people', 'tactful'.
*A person believed to have 'paranormal or parapsychological perception'.
Insensitivity:
*Not reacting to the emotions or situation of other people or not caring about others, tactless.
*Not reacting to something or not appreciating something.
*Not experiencing 'physical sensations', 'numb'."
God bless Wikipedia...key word in Insesivity: NUMB! wasn't she making herself numb when Edward was gone? if it's just a "personality" she'll have like Rosalie, Emmett, Esme and Carlisle, then she'll be Sensitive-Insensitive or able to control her senses.
Now, the other theory of clairvoyance. See here:
"Clairvoyance (from 17th century French clair meaning "clear" and voyant meaning "seeing") is the purported ability to gain 'information about an object, location or physical event through means other than the known human senses',[1][2] a form of 'extra-sensory' perception. A person said to have the ability of clairvoyance is referred to as a clairvoyant."
"Within parapsychology, clairvoyance is used exclusively to refer to 'the transfer of information that is both contemporary to, and hidden from, the clairvoyant'. It is differentiated from telepathy in that the information is said to 'be gained directly from an external physical source', rather than being transferred from the mind of one individual to another.[3]"
It's sort of like Edward's ability to read minds and Alice's to see in the future. But like you read, clairvoyances can have an object, be in a place OR have contact with someone and see 'information' noone knows, maybe not even said person (hence Jacob and Sam beeing in her dreams...she just 'knew') as you can also see if you read "Sensitivity" comes hand in hand with 'paranormal or parapsychological perception' and Clairvoyance's under that term.
I think the first and third are the most likely, out of all of the ones there..(I only put the three that I thought would be more true and the ones that I never thought of). The second one..I think that's just intuition...maybe her intuition will be stronger.
I looovee the first one. That one is INSANE.. Ireally wonder how it would work, and really want it to be true. That would be phenominal. And the third...wish I knew more of what it means.
Haha, glad some of you seem to like the first idea, that was one of mine, lol.
The Sensitivity one was someone else's though. I will copy the idea over, it's a bit on the long side, sorry...
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I think she's gonna be "sensitive" to things, that's my theory...well, she already is sensitive but it'll broaden more when she turns into a vamp (if she does). Hence the smell of blood, hence the knowledge of things that haven't occured, which I think that's why she can sort of "control" what she wants inside herself as in her been inmune to other vamps's gifts. Remember that Edward had a theory in New Moon about Demetri that his gift was tracking and he said he might not find her 'cause of that? I think the more he won't if she becomes a vamp, I could say she'll be sort of a psychic? no, wait lemme clear that out...she'll be sort of a clairvoyance...as in if she touches or sees someone, she'll feel the emotion? (sort of like Jasper..well, Jasper controls it) but I think she'll feel the emotions that were left or the ones that'll be in that room...been sensitive means also been shape-able to things. See sensitivity:
"The sensitivity or insensitivity of a human, often considered with regard to a particular kind of 'stimulus', is the 'strength of the feeling' it results in, in comparison with the strength of the stimulus. The concept applies to 'physical' as well as 'emotional feeling' "
"Sensitivity:
*Rapid perception with the 'senses', 'reacting to small changes'.
*Reacting appropriately to the 'emotions or situation of other people', 'tactful'.
*A person believed to have 'paranormal or parapsychological perception'.
Insensitivity:
*Not reacting to the emotions or situation of other people or not caring about others, tactless.
*Not reacting to something or not appreciating something.
*Not experiencing 'physical sensations', 'numb'."
God bless Wikipedia...key word in Insesivity: NUMB! wasn't she making herself numb when Edward was gone? if it's just a "personality" she'll have like Rosalie, Emmett, Esme and Carlisle, then she'll be Sensitive-Insensitive or able to control her senses.
Now, the other theory of clairvoyance. See here:
"Clairvoyance (from 17th century French clair meaning "clear" and voyant meaning "seeing") is the purported ability to gain 'information about an object, location or physical event through means other than the known human senses',[1][2] a form of 'extra-sensory' perception. A person said to have the ability of clairvoyance is referred to as a clairvoyant."
"Within parapsychology, clairvoyance is used exclusively to refer to 'the transfer of information that is both contemporary to, and hidden from, the clairvoyant'. It is differentiated from telepathy in that the information is said to 'be gained directly from an external physical source', rather than being transferred from the mind of one individual to another.[3]"
It's sort of like Edward's ability to read minds and Alice's to see in the future. But like you read, clairvoyances can have an object, be in a place OR have contact with someone and see 'information' noone knows, maybe not even said person (hence Jacob and Sam beeing in her dreams...she just 'knew') as you can also see if you read "Sensitivity" comes hand in hand with 'paranormal or parapsychological perception' and Clairvoyance's under that term.
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: other super power...
douachi wrote:
okay, throughout the books, she's had this incredible sense of smell, much stronger than a human's. i can't smell blood unless it's up to my nose like i'm taking crack! so i think she'll also be a good "wiffer". imagine her working with her dad, she'd be better than the dogs! hehe...well, this is my jist of her powers.
LOL first I have to say I love the crack comment!!! LOL
Ok my I do agree that I think there is absolutely no way that she will not be turn (But hey that could just me my wishful thinking getting the best of me).
As for her sense of smell...I agree I think one of her talents maybe that she would make a fantastic tracker due to her uncanny sense of smell. Also I agree that there is going to be something that has to do with her mind only because it is so private. I've often wondered also if, since Edward is changing her...possibly some of him will be transfered into her. Like she maybe able to read minds also (just a theory).
Unexpected things are guaranteed to happen in BD but I do believe that everything that happened in Eclipse happened for a reason. She came to grips with everything that she was fearing. And as she has said so many times in the book "I know who, I can't live without." - She may love Jacob, but it's true when she told Edward that she loved him more and that she couldn't live without him. _________________ ~<3~I'm a Edward Cullen is Totally Hot...Fanpire~<3~
~<3~Heather Marie~<3~
P.S. Rob is my english muffin ;-]!!!
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: other super power...
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Unexpected things are guaranteed to happen in BD but I do believe that everything that happened in Eclipse happened for a reason. She came to grips with everything that she was fearing. And as she has said so many times in the book "I know who, I can't live without." - She may love Jacob, but it's true when she told Edward that she loved him more and that she couldn't live without him.
yeah, so she does have to be with Edward(thank God!). i hope that in BD she will be able to let go of Jacob completely, in the "in love" way. we all know they weren't meant to be, and when Bella sees him with another girl(hopefully the imprintee), she'll get over him, like how you can get over an ex easier if you see them with someone else. maybe SM will pounce a new character into the book like one of the unexpected things. i think that'd be sweet!
Sweet it would!! I'm so excited for the Special Edition of Eclipse just for the sneak peak of BD!!! Gahhh!!! I can't wait. I'm so glad I work at Borders. LOL...I don't even need to wait until the store is open to get the damn book! LOL _________________ ~<3~I'm a Edward Cullen is Totally Hot...Fanpire~<3~
~<3~Heather Marie~<3~
P.S. Rob is my english muffin ;-]!!!
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject:
all these theories, anyone else thinking xmen? i think the idea of her extending her privatemind is too much like rogue in xmen where by touching other mutants, she can obtain their power. i dont think sm will use that one.
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