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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:19 am    Post subject: Foreshadowing Reply with quote

Now, I don't know if any of this has been discussed elsewhere on TA or on TT, but I made this discovery when reading Twilight for the 2nd time (which feels like ages ago now, lol). Everyone will probably read this and be like "...duh." but I think it is neat picking this kind of stuff out of books.

I may be reading too much into it, but I wanted to see if anyone else thought this was interesting as well. This section is on pg. 211, during one of the first times Bella sits with Edward at lunch:

"Don't you see? That's what proves me right. I care the most, because if I can do it" - he shook his head, seeming to struggle with the thought - "if leaving is the right thing to do, then I'll hurt myself to keep from hurting you, to keep you safe"
(Edward)
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"'No one has tried to do away with me today,' I reminded him, grateful for the lighter subject. I didn't want him to talk about goodbyes anymore. If I had to, I supposed I could purposefully put myself in danger to keep him close....I banished that thought before his quick eyes read it on my face. That idea would definitely get me into trouble."
(Bella)

Now, that pretty much looks like most of the plot of New Moon to me right there, lol. Edward leaving to protect Bella, hurting himself in the process. Bella, talking about putting herself in danger to keep on hearing his voice, i.e. motorcyles, extreme sports. And "that idea would definitely get me into trouble." We all know what happened after Bella went cliff diving: Bella almost drowning, Alice seeing it and showing up, Edward and the Volturi...

I just thought that it was interesting that the basic idea for New Moon is all right there. You can pick up what I'm putting down or rip it apart, lol. But when I read Twilight for the second time after reading New Moon and Eclipse...that page gave me chills and made my jaw drop...because you don't think about that at ALL at the time you are reading Twilight because you are all "OME, I LOVE YOU!!!" the entire time...or at least I was, lol. Plus, if that is your first read through, you have no idea what's in store in the next 2 books.

What are some other interesting foreshadowing parts for everyone else, in Twilight or any of the books?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh my gosh...I never saw that. I usually see things like that when I re-read books, especially if I read them two more time. I mean, I think I looked at it and thought that it was like New Moon, but never put two and two together. Crazy.

You're a genius!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManiacsRose wrote:
Oh my gosh...I never saw that. I usually see things like that when I re-read books, especially if I read them two more time. I mean, I think I looked at it and thought that it was like New Moon, but never put two and two together. Crazy.

You're a genius!!!!


Aww, thanks, you are too nice Smile . I wouldn't call myself a genius though, lol.

But isn't that so neat? I mean, it could just be coincidence...but it describes what happens in New Moon almost perfectly. After I read that and it dawned on me, the first thing I said was "Stephenie Meyer, you are just too amazing," and then kept on reading to see if I could pick up anything else like that part.

Stephenie Meyer = epitome of awesome.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read a lot of foreshadowing of her becoming a vampire, but I don't remember where I saw it.

And she is amazing. I doubt she even noticed she did that until later, if she ever did. Which I find to be amazing.

I love that the characters are alive in her head.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I talked about that in one of the forums somewhere! Razz LOL. Awesome...

So we were discussing this and started to wonder... What if the plot of BD has been given away (at least in hints anyways) in Eclipse already? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it has...Of course I don't think it's as great as the twilight foreshadow, unfortunately.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's one:

Twilight, page 52 (paperback)
"I swiftly looked away and threw the truck into reverse, almost hitting a rusty Toyota Corolla in my haste. Lucky for the Toyota, I stomped on the brake in time. It was just the sort of car that my truck would make scrap metal of."
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

essa01 wrote:
I talked about that in one of the forums somewhere! Razz LOL. Awesome...

So we were discussing this and started to wonder... What if the plot of BD has been given away (at least in hints anyways) in Eclipse already? Very Happy


I would feel ridiculous if most of the clues have been in print all along. But it would also be kind of neat for that to happen, just because it would show that SM's writing skill is superior, as we already know.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

morgan wrote:
essa01 wrote:
I talked about that in one of the forums somewhere! Razz LOL. Awesome...

So we were discussing this and started to wonder... What if the plot of BD has been given away (at least in hints anyways) in Eclipse already? Very Happy


I would feel ridiculous if most of the clues have been in print all along. But it would also be kind of neat for that to happen, just because it would show that SM's writing skill is superior, as we already know.


Yeah, true!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

essa01 wrote:
morgan wrote:
essa01 wrote:
I talked about that in one of the forums somewhere! Razz LOL. Awesome...

So we were discussing this and started to wonder... What if the plot of BD has been given away (at least in hints anyways) in Eclipse already? Very Happy


I would feel ridiculous if most of the clues have been in print all along. But it would also be kind of neat for that to happen, just because it would show that SM's writing skill is superior, as we already know.


Yeah, true!


See, this is why I am not sure about Bella becoming vampire. Remember in book two, the beginning. When Bella thought that she was talking to her Grandmother and it was actually just herself looking in a mirror. Sad That is why I still don't know if she will become a vampire...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lymikimmie wrote:
essa01 wrote:
morgan wrote:
essa01 wrote:
I talked about that in one of the forums somewhere! Razz LOL. Awesome...

So we were discussing this and started to wonder... What if the plot of BD has been given away (at least in hints anyways) in Eclipse already? Very Happy


I would feel ridiculous if most of the clues have been in print all along. But it would also be kind of neat for that to happen, just because it would show that SM's writing skill is superior, as we already know.


Yeah, true!


See, this is why I am not sure about Bella becoming vampire. Remember in book two, the beginning. When Bella thought that she was talking to her Grandmother and it was actually just herself looking in a mirror. Sad That is why I still don't know if she will become a vampire...


That was a major fear that she had. We all knew it. That would have been her future because that was Edward's plan all along....that's the reason why New Moon happened. Edward needed to see what it would be like without her and also for her to make her choice period.

I don't think that was a foreshadow, because it was too much of her fear and something that would have happened if it were not for New Moon anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManiacsRose wrote:
lymikimmie wrote:
essa01 wrote:
morgan wrote:
essa01 wrote:
I talked about that in one of the forums somewhere! Razz LOL. Awesome...

So we were discussing this and started to wonder... What if the plot of BD has been given away (at least in hints anyways) in Eclipse already? Very Happy


I would feel ridiculous if most of the clues have been in print all along. But it would also be kind of neat for that to happen, just because it would show that SM's writing skill is superior, as we already know.


Yeah, true!


See, this is why I am not sure about Bella becoming vampire. Remember in book two, the beginning. When Bella thought that she was talking to her Grandmother and it was actually just herself looking in a mirror. Sad That is why I still don't know if she will become a vampire...


That was a major fear that she had. We all knew it. That would have been her future because that was Edward's plan all along....that's the reason why New Moon happened. Edward needed to see what it would be like without her and also for her to make her choice period.

I don't think that was a foreshadow, because it was too much of her fear and something that would have happened if it were not for New Moon anyway.



O agree. I don't see it as foreshadowing. It's like one of Alice's hazy visions, a possible future but not set in stone. It's just what could have happened if Edward hadn't left.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really love those foreshadowings..I also noticed those yu mentioned and also another one..I don't know the page because I don't own the English book, but before Bella goes to school the first time she says something like 'nobody will eat me' or something.. That made me smile..I found it kind of cute Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DiamondsAreForever wrote:
I really love those foreshadowings..I also noticed those yu mentioned and also another one..I don't know the page because I don't own the English book, but before Bella goes to school the first time she says something like 'nobody will eat me' or something.. That made me smile..I found it kind of cute Smile


it's Bite me...not eat me.. lol. I noticed that too, highlighted it in my book because I knew it was a foreshadow and ironic. It was great.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a pretty obvious one, and one Stephenie has discussed herself already, but Bella's nightmare in Twilight (C7, p112 in UK edition), where she sees Jake as a werewolf. I like how she had no intention of writing a sequel to Twilight, yet had already laid the foundations for them without realising. Sometimes kismet happens Smile
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