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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:43 am Post subject: A bet
My sister and I are having a bet over what is going to happen in Breaking Dawn. We both agreed on that we did not think that Bella was going to change into a vampire. (Guys, I'm really hoping that she does...but I am not really sure!!) So we're taking bets on what Bella's power/powers will be, what the conflict will be in BD and anything else really...
Does anyone have suggestions?
Because I really want the dollar that we are betting for. If the stakes are raised, I will let you know. _________________ "In this world love has no color, yet how deeply my body is stained by yours." J. Craqqette
I'm thinking she definitely will have some sort of power if she is turned (although I really can't say whether or not I think she will be or not -- I haven't made up my mind yet). I think she'll have some kind of mental power. Part of me thinks she'll be like Edward and be able to read minds. But in addition to that I think she's definitely gonna stay immune to other psychic abilities and possibly be able to "override" them for a short period of time. Whaddya think? _________________
Credit goes to Enough4 @ Vesperarium
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:02 am Post subject:
There's no way that Bella won't be turned. Stephenie works with a formula and her main goal isn't to surprise the reader. Everything that happened in Eclipse would be for nothing if Bella doesn't become a vampire. She would have permanently destroyed her relationship with Jacob for no reason, she would have come to terms with getting married for no reason, and she would have gone through all that angst about what she'd be giving up for no reason. There's no way in Hell Bella's staying human. If not for everything I just said then she'll become a vampire simply because Stephenie Meyer is a huge romantic who wants a happy ending. There's a happy ending in every one of the previous books. There's no reason to believe that Breaking Dawn won't follow that pattern.
As for Bella's power, it's going to have something to do with her private mind. I'm sorry but I think these theories about her being immune to the smell of blood are preposterous. Reason being, if Bella as a vampire is immune to blood then she instantly becomes the stereotypical Mary-sue vampire. Her change becomes too easy and Stephenie's not going to do that. Second, in the Q&A on Lexicon Stephenie talks about why Edward, Jane, and Aro's skills don't affect her. She says it's because Bella's mind is extremely private, that 'no one can touch her there'. Aro wouldn't be so interested in how she turns out if he didn't suspect that her mind would become extremely powerful. He didn't even know that she dislikes the smell of blood. If anything she'll be more aware of the smell and more tempted by it when she's a vampire.
So in regards to your bet I'd go with this:
"I bet you that Bella's going to be changed and that her power will have something to do with how private her mind is."
I know... I'm long winded. _________________ ~Molly~
There's no way that Bella won't be turned. Stephenie works with a formula and her main goal isn't to surprise the reader. Everything that happened in Eclipse would be for nothing if Bella doesn't become a vampire. She would have permanently destroyed her relationship with Jacob for no reason, she would have come to terms with getting married for no reason, and she would have gone through all that angst about what she'd be giving up for no reason. There's no way in Hell Bella's staying human. If not for everything I just said then she'll become a vampire simply because Stephenie Meyer is a huge romantic who wants a happy ending. There's a happy ending in every one of the previous books. There's no reason to believe that Breaking Dawn won't follow that pattern.
As for Bella's power, it's going to have something to do with her private mind. I'm sorry but I think these theories about her being immune to the smell of blood are preposterous. Reason being, if Bella as a vampire is immune to blood then she instantly becomes the stereotypical Mary-sue vampire. Her change becomes too easy and Stephenie's not going to do that. Second, in the Q&A on Lexicon Stephenie talks about why Edward, Jane, and Aro's skills don't affect her. She says it's because Bella's mind is extremely private, that 'no one can touch her there'. Aro wouldn't be so interested in how she turns out if he didn't suspect that her mind would become extremely powerful. He didn't even know that she dislikes the smell of blood. If anything she'll be more aware of the smell and more tempted by it when she's a vampire.
So in regards to your bet I'd go with this:
"I bet you that Bella's going to be changed and that her power will have something to do with how private her mind is."
I know... I'm long winded.
lol
No it's all good. I think that I can bet that. Awesomeness! _________________ "In this world love has no color, yet how deeply my body is stained by yours." J. Craqqette
Oohhh that is a good bet! I wonder what her powers will be, I never really thought of that. She will certainly be powerful, that's for sure.
Does anyone else get the feeling that the Volturi might get mad at the Cullen's for kicking so much butt, and feel threatened, and do something more hardcore and intense in BD?
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject:
lambinthemeadow wrote:
Oohhh that is a good bet! I wonder what her powers will be, I never really thought of that. She will certainly be powerful, that's for sure.
Does anyone else get the feeling that the Volturi might get mad at the Cullen's for kicking so much butt, and feel threatened, and do something more hardcore and intense in BD?
I can see that happening. _________________ ~Molly~
I think that in BD in the beginning of the book they are going to be planning the wedding, and (I'm hoping) they get married, and eventually towards the end of the book Bella turns. Thats at least what I'm hoping. And I kind of agree that the Volturi might interfere in this book.
Also to go along with this post, I have another theory. Since Bella has been a human we have noticed that she can't stand the sight or SMELL of blood, so when, and hoping it actually happens, she gets turned I believe her special or one of her special power(s) is going to repulsion to having to drink human blood. I think that might affect her when she gets turned, because I don't think Stephenie would make such a big hype about her and blood not mixing in all three books so far, and not mention it in BD. _________________ Thanks Stephenie. Now I'll never find a man. LOL!
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Yea, the Volturi definitely seemed kinda pissed when they found out the Cullen's killed those 20 vampires.. I mean they had help, but the Volturi didn't know that.. They will probably feel threatened, and who knows? _________________ "You are exactly my brand of heroin"
Alrighty, here's my theories: Bella will become a vampire. That tagline for Breaking Dawn sealed the deal in my mind, "...will take your breath away." This tells me that Bella will become a vampire. Plus, I have read somewhere that Mrs. Meyer herself "likes happy endings." If anyone can confirm that quote and credit the site it comes from, more power to ya! I just don't have the time right at this moment, but perhaps I will search tonight and make another post. Okay, back to the book. I think the Volturi will step in. I think some major action will go down. I believe that I also read somewhere from Stephenie herself that we will learn more about the Volturi in this final book. I also hope that Charlie gets a happy ending. I really don't want him all alone. Renee has Phil, and Charlie deserves to be happy too. I think that the wedding will happen, and that it will be beautiful and perfect, and Bella will actually enjoy herself. But I also think that it will be postponed. All in all, I think we will all be pleased with the final installment of our favorite book series.
There's no way that Bella won't be turned. Stephenie works with a formula and her main goal isn't to surprise the reader. Everything that happened in Eclipse would be for nothing if Bella doesn't become a vampire. She would have permanently destroyed her relationship with Jacob for no reason, she would have come to terms with getting married for no reason, and she would have gone through all that angst about what she'd be giving up for no reason. There's no way in Hell Bella's staying human. If not for everything I just said then she'll become a vampire simply because Stephenie Meyer is a huge romantic who wants a happy ending. There's a happy ending in every one of the previous books. There's no reason to believe that Breaking Dawn won't follow that pattern.
As for Bella's power, it's going to have something to do with her private mind. I'm sorry but I think these theories about her being immune to the smell of blood are preposterous. Reason being, if Bella as a vampire is immune to blood then she instantly becomes the stereotypical Mary-sue vampire. Her change becomes too easy and Stephenie's not going to do that. Second, in the Q&A on Lexicon Stephenie talks about why Edward, Jane, and Aro's skills don't affect her. She says it's because Bella's mind is extremely private, that 'no one can touch her there'. Aro wouldn't be so interested in how she turns out if he didn't suspect that her mind would become extremely powerful. He didn't even know that she dislikes the smell of blood. If anything she'll be more aware of the smell and more tempted by it when she's a vampire.
So in regards to your bet I'd go with this:
"I bet you that Bella's going to be changed and that her power will have something to do with how private her mind is."
I know... I'm long winded.
Amen to that sister!!!
I was going to say something about the whole blood thing and private mind...but I decided against it.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject:
I'm kinda feeling the idea that the wedding maybe postponed. I'm thinking maybe because of some wedding crashers. Like the Volturi or maybe even Jacob. His storyline seems so unresolved and plus he's an impulsive 16 year old who knows what he's been thinking up in that brain of his. But don't worry I'm not crazy I still think Bella and Edward will get married I just think their first attempt might not be so successful
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject:
ManiacsRose wrote:
consequenceofsound wrote:
There's no way that Bella won't be turned. Stephenie works with a formula and her main goal isn't to surprise the reader. Everything that happened in Eclipse would be for nothing if Bella doesn't become a vampire. She would have permanently destroyed her relationship with Jacob for no reason, she would have come to terms with getting married for no reason, and she would have gone through all that angst about what she'd be giving up for no reason. There's no way in Hell Bella's staying human. If not for everything I just said then she'll become a vampire simply because Stephenie Meyer is a huge romantic who wants a happy ending. There's a happy ending in every one of the previous books. There's no reason to believe that Breaking Dawn won't follow that pattern.
As for Bella's power, it's going to have something to do with her private mind. I'm sorry but I think these theories about her being immune to the smell of blood are preposterous. Reason being, if Bella as a vampire is immune to blood then she instantly becomes the stereotypical Mary-sue vampire. Her change becomes too easy and Stephenie's not going to do that. Second, in the Q&A on Lexicon Stephenie talks about why Edward, Jane, and Aro's skills don't affect her. She says it's because Bella's mind is extremely private, that 'no one can touch her there'. Aro wouldn't be so interested in how she turns out if he didn't suspect that her mind would become extremely powerful. He didn't even know that she dislikes the smell of blood. If anything she'll be more aware of the smell and more tempted by it when she's a vampire.
So in regards to your bet I'd go with this:
"I bet you that Bella's going to be changed and that her power will have something to do with how private her mind is."
I know... I'm long winded.
Amen to that sister!!!
I was going to say something about the whole blood thing and private mind...but I decided against it.
People think she's going to be impervious to blood? That's insane. I mean, in the first book she talks about how she can smell it. I think her words were "it smells like rust... and salt." And Edward seemed to be quite surprised by this.
Yeesh. The things people come up with. Eh, I guess it isn't as bad as some of the things I've read in fanfiction (Edward x Jacob lemons.... one word: EWW).
And after reading Eclipse again, I think she's gonna get changed too. There really isn't any way around her not being changed especially because of Alice's vision of her being a vampire. And yep, her ability will have something to do with the privacy of her mind.
As Bella would say, "I'm betting on Alice." _________________
Credit goes to Enough4 @ Vesperarium
I've had this discussion on my fansite! I would link you to it but I'm not sure what the rules are on doing so.
Most of the theories were to do with Bella's mind, but this is a list/summery of what people suggested:
*Perhaps she'll be able to include others in her "closed mindness" - i.e., she could "stretch" it, so that Aro/Jane couldn't use their abilities on the others. Or she could use it to stop someone from being able to use their ability (that works on the mind) on anyone for however long she chooses.
*She'll have some sort of "knowledge", - the dreams she has as a human always tend to have some sort of truth about them; the Edward/Jacob dream in Twilight, the dream inclusind Sam Uley when she's searching in NM, where his shape changes in her peripheral vision, etc.
*The blood thing already mentioned; that she'll be able to resist it more, perhaps.
*She'll be "sensitive" to things (too long winded to explain on here, it was a LONG comment)
*Removing things from existance by thought - like "she was able to block out thoughts that she no longer wanted to exsist. If something bad happened to her she would just supress or block the thought," as that comment said.
*She'll have some sort of premonitions; "New Moon chapter 2 Stitches - Bella says "as if something worse was coming tomorrow, it was a silly premintion" She says this after her last birthday kiss that Edward gives her before she goes to sleep. So Bella feels like she has premintions. And every time she gets that feeling, something happens."
There were others, but they were all sort of similar.
If any of the mods read this, can you please let me know if it's alright to link my discussion blogs for future reference? Thanks.
*Perhaps she'll be able to include others in her "closed mindness" - i.e., she could "stretch" it, so that Aro/Jane couldn't use their abilities on the others. Or she could use it to stop someone from being able to use their ability (that works on the mind) on anyone for however long she chooses.
*She'll have some sort of "knowledge", - the dreams she has as a human always tend to have some sort of truth about them; the Edward/Jacob dream in Twilight, the dream inclusind Sam Uley when she's searching in NM, where his shape changes in her peripheral vision, etc.
*She'll be "sensitive" to things (too long winded to explain on here, it was a LONG comment)
I think the first and third are the most likely, out of all of the ones there..(I only put the three that I thought would be more true and the ones that I never thought of). The second one..I think that's just intuition...maybe her intuition will be stronger.
I looovee the first one. That one is INSANE.. Ireally wonder how it would work, and really want it to be true. That would be phenominal. And the third...wish I knew more of what it means.
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